[新聞] TSMC Considers Running Intel's US Factories After Trump Team Request

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原文標題: TSMC Considers Running Intel's US Factories After Trump Team Request TSMC would take controlling stake in potential partnership Administration aims to boost manufacturing of advanced chips 台積電考慮在特朗普團隊請求下運營英特爾的美國工廠 台積電可能在合作中持有控股權 美國政府希望提升先進晶片製造能力 原文連結: https://tinyurl.com/mrewftsy 發布時間: 2025年2月15日 at 上午2:54 記者署名: Mackenzie Hawkins and Ian King 原文內容: Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Co. is considering taking a controlling stake in Intel Corp.’s factories at the request of Trump administration officials, a person familiar with the matter said, as the president looks to boost American manufacturing and maintain US leadership in critical technologies. Trump’s team raised the idea of a deal between the two companies in recent meetings with officials from the Taiwanese chipmaker, the person said, and TSMC was receptive. It’s unclear whether Intel is open to a transaction. The talks are in very early stages, and the exact structure of a potential partnership hasn’t been established. But the intended result would have the world’s largest made-to-order chipmaker fully operating Intel’s US semiconductor factories, said the person, who asked not to be identified because the conversations are private. It also would address concerns about Intel’s deteriorating financial state, which has forced the company to slash jobs and curb its global expansion plans. The arrangement may involve having major American chip designers take equity stakes, according to the person, along with support from the US government. That means the venture wouldn’t solely be owned by a foreign company. TSMC is the go-to chipmaker for Apple Inc., Nvidia Corp. and other companies developing semiconductors that power AI algorithms. TSMC and Santa Clara, California-based Intel declined to comment. A White House representative didn’t immediately respond to a request for comment. Intel shares pared losses on Friday after Bloomberg reported on the discussions. The stock was down less than 1% to $24 as 1:56 p.m. in New York after dropping as much as 5.3% earlier in the session. While Intel has lost a lot of ground to rivals over the last five years, it still manufactures the most widely used components in the personal computer and server industries. And it has the largest and most advanced production network owned by a US-based company. Those factories have taken on vital strategic importance as Washington works to reverse decades of semiconductor manufacturing shifting to Asia. Under former Chief Executive Officer Pat Gelsinger, Intel embarked on an ambitious and expensive plan to restore its chipmaking lead, and the company won $7.9 billion in US government funding to support projects in four states. It’s also secured $3 billion to produce chips for the US military, all of which will be paid out over time as Intel’s plants hit key milestones. The company has received $2.2 billion as of January. But that effort has so far failed to attract enough outside customers to make the investments worthwhile, particularly at a new site in Ohio. Intel’s own products also are losing market share, adding to the overall squeeze on its finances — just when it needs to spend heavily. Gelsinger was forced out in December after the board lost confidence in his turnaround plans. Though Intel has reiterated its commitment to investing in US factories — even as it pulls back from efforts abroad — Washington officials have for months been discussing contingency plans. One option favored by some in the Biden administration was a possible deal between Intel and GlobalFoundries Inc ., Bloomberg has reported. That would have married a maker of older-generation chips with Intel’s leading-edge business. But GlobalFoundries walked away from cutting-edge production years ago and doesn’t have the money for an acquisition, so those conversations didn’t progress much past a thought exercise. Biden officials also floated the possibility of TSMC licensing its manufacturing technology for use at Intel’s facilities, according to multiple people familiar with the conversations. But TSMC wasn’t interested in an arrangement that could ultimately benefit a competitor, the people said. And Biden’s team was generally reluctant to take an active role in deal conversations, according to several people familiar with the situation. Trump, meanwhile, is not shy about cutting deals — and TSMC, which just held its board meeting in the US for the first time, is eager to maintain good relations with the new president. Trump has repeatedly accused Taiwan of “stealing” the US chip industry and threatened tariffs on foreign-produced semiconductors. He’s expressed a preference for using those kinds of levies to boost US chipmaking instead of government subsidies — the approach adopted by the US Chips and Science Act. That legislation, passed in 2022, led to TSMC winning $6.6 billion in grants to support three plants in Phoenix. But it was also Trump’s first administration that set out to lure TSMC to the US, and top Trump officials have consistently affirmed their commitment to boosting domestic manufacturing. That’s particularly true for technologies at the heart of the US-China competition. The US “will ensure that the most powerful AI systems are built in the US with American-designed and manufactured chips,” Vice President JD Vance said during an AI summit in Paris earlier this week. The fact that TSMC is open to an Intel deal indicates a change in tune from just a few months ago. In October, CEO C.C. Wei had told analysts that his company wasn’t interested in acquiring Intel’s factories. Asked the same question again in January, Wei didn’t directly answer: “They are our very good customers,” he said. “I like them and they are very important to TSMC’s business also. That all I can say.” — With assistance from Debby Wu and Jenny Leonard ChatGPT機翻: 台灣積體電路製造公司(台積電)正在考慮在美國政府官員的請求下,持有英特爾公司( Intel)工廠的控股權,一名知情人士透露。此舉是特朗普政府為了促進美國製造業發展 ,並維持美國在關鍵技術領域的領導地位。 該知情人士表示,特朗普團隊最近與台積電高層會面時,提出了這項合作構想,而台積電 對此表示有興趣。目前尚不清楚英特爾是否願意接受這筆交易。 談判仍處於非常初步的階段,潛在合作的具體架構尚未確定。然而,這項計畫的目標是讓 全球最大的晶圓代工企業全面接管英特爾在美國的半導體工廠。該知情人士表示,這也將 有助於緩解市場對英特爾財務狀況惡化的擔憂,該公司近期已被迫裁員並縮減其全球擴張 計畫。 該知情人士表示,這項合作可能會涉及美國主要晶片設計公司持有部分股權,同時獲得美 國政府的支持。這意味著該合資企業不會完全由外國公司持有。 台積電是蘋果公司(Apple Inc.)、輝達公司(Nvidia Corp.)及其他開發人工智慧(AI )運算晶片企業的主要代工夥伴。 台積電和總部位於加州聖克拉拉的英特爾均拒絕置評。 白宮發言人則尚未回應置評請求。 在彭博社報導相關討論後,英特爾股價周五縮小跌幅。截至美東時間下午 1:56,該公司 股價下跌不到 1%,至 24 美元,此前盤中一度下跌 5.3%。 儘管英特爾在過去五年內大幅落後於競爭對手,但仍然是個人電腦與伺服器產業中最常用 晶片的主要製造商。此外,它擁有美國企業所持有的最大且最先進的半導體生產網絡。隨 著華盛頓試圖扭轉數十年來半導體製造向亞洲轉移的趨勢,這些工廠已成為極具戰略價值 的資產。 在前任執行長帕特·基辛格(Pat Gelsinger)的領導下,英特爾展開了一項雄心勃勃且 高成本的計畫,試圖重奪晶片製造領先地位。該公司獲得了美國政府 79 億美元的資助, 以支持其在四個州的項目。此外,英特爾還獲得 30 億美元資金,用於為美國軍方生產晶 片,這些資金將隨著英特爾工廠達成關鍵里程碑而陸續發放。截至 1 月,英特爾已收到 22 億美元。 然而,這項計畫至今未能吸引足夠的外部客戶,使其投資變得值得,特別是在俄亥俄州的 新廠。與此同時,英特爾自家產品的市場份額也在下滑,進一步加劇了其財務壓力,恰逢 公司正需要大筆支出之際。由於董事會對基辛格的復興計畫失去信心,他在去年 12 月被 迫下台。 儘管英特爾一再強調其對美國工廠投資的承諾——即使同時縮減海外業務——但華盛頓官 員數月來一直在討論備選方案。據《彭博社》報導,拜登政府內部的一些官員曾支持英特 爾與格羅方德(GlobalFoundries Inc.)達成潛在交易的選項。 這項合作將把專注於生產舊世代晶片的公司與英特爾的先進製程業務結合。然而,格羅方 德早已放棄尖端製程,且缺乏資金進行收購,因此這些討論最終未能進一步發展,僅停留 在概念階段。 據多位知情人士透露,拜登政府官員曾提出另一種可能性,即讓台積電授權其製造技術, 供英特爾的工廠使用。然而,知情人士表示,台積電對這種最終可能有利於競爭對手的安 排並不感興趣。此外,據多名消息人士透露,拜登團隊整體上也不願在這類交易談判中積 極介入。 另一方面,川普在推動交易方面向來直言不諱,而台積電近期首次在美國舉行董事會會 議,顯示出其希望與新任總統維持良好關係的意願。 川普多次指責台灣「竊取」美國的晶片產業,並威脅對外國生產的半導體徵收關稅。他傾 向於透過關稅措施來促進美國本土的晶片製造,而非依賴政府補助——這與《美國晶片與 科學法案》的做法不同。該法案於 2022 年通過,並使台積電獲得 66 億美元的補助,用 於支持其在鳳凰城興建的三座工廠。 不過,最早積極吸引台積電赴美設廠的,正是川普的第一屆政府,而川普政府的高層官員 也一直強調其推動國內製造業發展的承諾,特別是那些處於美中競爭核心的關鍵技術。 美國副總統 JD Vance 本週稍早在巴黎舉行的 AI 高峰會上表示,美國「將確保最強大的 人工智慧系統在美國建造,並使用美國設計和製造的晶片」。 台積電對與英特爾合作持開放態度,顯示出與幾個月前相比立場有所轉變。去年 10 月, 台積電執行長魏哲家曾向分析師表示,公司對收購英特爾工廠不感興趣。 而在今年 1 月再次被問及同樣問題時,魏哲家並未直接回答,而是表示:「他們是我們 非常重要的客戶,我很喜歡他們,他們對台積電的業務也非常關鍵。這就是我能說的全部 了。」 心得/評論: 傳出入股英特爾的不只台積電,還會包括美國其他的晶片設計公司, 甚至美國政府也可能入股(有可能是川普說的主權基金,儘管錢不知道從哪來) 而英特爾也未必會接受。 由台積電去年10月至今年1月的回答轉變,這件事可能之前就在私下談了。 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 114.32.7.252 (臺灣) ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/Stock/M.1739564425.A.E9A.html

02/15 04:22, 13小時前 , 1F
超級idm
02/15 04:22, 1F
※ 編輯: chordate (114.32.7.252 臺灣), 02/15/2025 04:23:47

02/15 04:25, 13小時前 , 2F
問就是噴
02/15 04:25, 2F

02/15 04:29, 13小時前 , 3F
笑死 帶起來就說壟斷開罰
02/15 04:29, 3F

02/15 04:29, 13小時前 , 4F
變成子公司+技轉的概念?
02/15 04:29, 4F

02/15 04:30, 13小時前 , 5F
其實是跪了 但至少可避免關稅
02/15 04:30, 5F

02/15 04:31, 13小時前 , 6F
過年前早料到 還發一篇文 一堆人不信 接下來看三星
02/15 04:31, 6F

02/15 04:31, 13小時前 , 7F
要不要一起賣晶圓代工廠了
02/15 04:31, 7F

02/15 04:31, 13小時前 , 8F
工廠賣給GG 當繳保護費 ?
02/15 04:31, 8F

02/15 04:32, 13小時前 , 9F
50收 晚了就不要了
02/15 04:32, 9F

02/15 04:33, 13小時前 , 10F
已翻
02/15 04:33, 10F

02/15 04:37, 13小時前 , 11F
去年 CC魏:誰要這垃圾拖累公司
02/15 04:37, 11F

02/15 04:37, 13小時前 , 12F
今年 CC魏:我非常有興趣
02/15 04:37, 12F

02/15 04:37, 13小時前 , 13F
這樣就可以躲關稅了嗎??
02/15 04:37, 13F

02/15 04:41, 13小時前 , 14F
把美國那幾間fabless也抓進來入股 真會玩
02/15 04:41, 14F

02/15 05:09, 12小時前 , 15F
這樣當然可以免關稅啊,搞不好GG 有些單要分新工廠
02/15 05:09, 15F

02/15 05:27, 12小時前 , 16F
台積電這樣跟被強暴沒兩樣,事後又提高國防預算 等
02/15 05:27, 16F

02/15 05:27, 12小時前 , 17F
於付費被強暴
02/15 05:27, 17F

02/15 05:29, 12小時前 , 18F
往好處想gg以後有川普罩有美國罩壞處是每年多提列
02/15 05:29, 18F

02/15 05:29, 12小時前 , 19F
幾十億美金當作折舊吧!一開始光工廠改造就幾年過
02/15 05:29, 19F

02/15 05:29, 12小時前 , 20F
去了!
02/15 05:29, 20F

02/15 05:30, 12小時前 , 21F
技術還是台灣最先進啦!畢竟研發都在台灣
02/15 05:30, 21F

02/15 05:32, 12小時前 , 22F
如果gg要維持毛利營利不排除調漲代工價或要求其下
02/15 05:32, 22F

02/15 05:32, 12小時前 , 23F
供應鏈降價
02/15 05:32, 23F

02/15 05:43, 12小時前 , 24F
周一營建股會崩盤嗎
02/15 05:43, 24F

02/15 05:45, 12小時前 , 25F
Gg adr漲代表美國勝利但周一台積電可不一定漲喔!
02/15 05:45, 25F

02/15 05:52, 11小時前 , 26F
直接搶技術噢
02/15 05:52, 26F

02/15 05:54, 11小時前 , 27F
請君入甕。嘻嘻
02/15 05:54, 27F

02/15 06:12, 11小時前 , 28F
以後買得到 Gntel 的CPU嗎
02/15 06:12, 28F

02/15 06:19, 11小時前 , 29F
英特爾出資一千億美元把晶圓廠賣給台積電,都算台
02/15 06:19, 29F

02/15 06:19, 11小時前 , 30F
積電的大利空吧
02/15 06:19, 30F

02/15 06:23, 11小時前 , 31F
之前不是說GG收購Intel代工廠算利多
02/15 06:23, 31F

02/15 06:24, 11小時前 , 32F
GG下去吧
02/15 06:24, 32F

02/15 06:29, 11小時前 , 33F
巴菲特真是高瞻遠矚,他唯一沒說的應該就是台灣政
02/15 06:29, 33F

02/15 06:29, 11小時前 , 34F
府掏空台積電吧
02/15 06:29, 34F

02/15 06:31, 11小時前 , 35F
好了啦 沒事了 老張早就算好這種結果 才沒主動談
02/15 06:31, 35F

02/15 06:35, 11小時前 , 36F
養一家新公司來搶台積電訂單,
02/15 06:35, 36F

02/15 06:35, 11小時前 , 37F
難怪台灣股票跌,美國股票漲
02/15 06:35, 37F

02/15 06:45, 11小時前 , 38F
如果客戶也入股,我想也是百般不願意
02/15 06:45, 38F

02/15 06:45, 11小時前 , 39F
GG有川普罩?呵呵,不過就是個肉便器還需要罩
02/15 06:45, 39F

02/15 06:45, 11小時前 , 40F
反正就大家一起做做樣子給川普面子
02/15 06:45, 40F

02/15 06:57, 10小時前 , 41F
保護費要台積電繳 台灣政府是多可悲
02/15 06:57, 41F

02/15 06:59, 10小時前 , 42F
高級打工頭 笑死 股權還是美國運營起來就能滾了
02/15 06:59, 42F

02/15 07:00, 10小時前 , 43F
gg 收購代工廠要百分百持股才利多吧,美國政府也在
02/15 07:00, 43F

02/15 07:00, 10小時前 , 44F
裡面持股看起來超可怕
02/15 07:00, 44F

02/15 07:00, 10小時前 , 45F
政府也要軍購繳保護費啊= =如果是政府出你是不是又
02/15 07:00, 45F

02/15 07:00, 10小時前 , 46F
要罵為啥要用納稅錢幫私人企業繳保護費?
02/15 07:00, 46F

02/15 07:11, 10小時前 , 47F
太離譜了......
02/15 07:11, 47F

02/15 07:15, 10小時前 , 48F
晶片設計公司也入股或牙膏還持有部分股權,哪間敢下
02/15 07:15, 48F

02/15 07:15, 10小時前 , 49F
單阿,不怕設計被偷學走喔?
02/15 07:15, 49F

02/15 07:25, 10小時前 , 50F
估計也不能用太多台灣人 結論:繼續賠錢
02/15 07:25, 50F

02/15 07:28, 10小時前 , 51F
02/15 07:28, 51F

02/15 07:28, 10小時前 , 52F
然後白宮又反駁了
02/15 07:28, 52F

02/15 07:42, 10小時前 , 53F
周末鬼故事
02/15 07:42, 53F

02/15 08:05, 9小時前 , 54F
台灣不能待了
02/15 08:05, 54F

02/15 08:06, 9小時前 , 55F
呵呵 台灣台積電營運精神移植到美國?不可能啦
02/15 08:06, 55F

02/15 08:16, 9小時前 , 56F
我認為就算給英特爾技術,英特爾也做不起來,因為
02/15 08:16, 56F

02/15 08:16, 9小時前 , 57F
裡面太多眉眉角角了
02/15 08:16, 57F

02/15 08:17, 9小時前 , 58F
只有台積電的工程師可以穩定良率
02/15 08:17, 58F

02/15 08:24, 9小時前 , 59F
川普真的是技安
02/15 08:24, 59F

02/15 08:32, 9小時前 , 60F
等你做起來再踢到旁邊嗎 XD
02/15 08:32, 60F

02/15 08:40, 9小時前 , 61F
弄一陣子有起色,四年也差不多過了
02/15 08:40, 61F

02/15 08:47, 9小時前 , 62F
唯一的方法就是引進台勞 美國能做到的話才可能成功
02/15 08:47, 62F

02/15 08:48, 9小時前 , 63F
耐操便宜堪用的人力比技術還重要
02/15 08:48, 63F

02/15 09:01, 8小時前 , 64F
他們工會現就該該叫啊,以後真的量產才是苦頭開始
02/15 09:01, 64F

02/15 09:04, 8小時前 , 65F
意思應該是牙膏會被多間公司分食...
02/15 09:04, 65F

02/15 09:04, 8小時前 , 66F
叫川普穿上無塵衣進去輪個一週不知道他想法會不會
02/15 09:04, 66F

02/15 09:04, 8小時前 , 67F
改變
02/15 09:04, 67F

02/15 09:05, 8小時前 , 68F
工廠的部分由台積接收製造賣給美國人
02/15 09:05, 68F

02/15 09:05, 8小時前 , 69F
設計部分 美國七巨跟政府還是持有專利
02/15 09:05, 69F

02/15 09:24, 8小時前 , 70F
Intel沒有想像的弱,他在架構上IP佈局其實相當完整
02/15 09:24, 70F

02/15 09:24, 8小時前 , 71F
其實中國與其扶植SMIC不如狂買INTC
02/15 09:24, 71F

02/15 09:24, 8小時前 , 72F
可能更划算
02/15 09:24, 72F

02/15 09:35, 8小時前 , 73F
幫競爭對手提升技術追上自己 真是高招
02/15 09:35, 73F

02/15 09:35, 8小時前 , 74F
所以之前有傳過請劉德音去接 可能算是這個的延伸
02/15 09:35, 74F

02/15 09:38, 8小時前 , 75F
丸子
02/15 09:38, 75F

02/15 09:46, 8小時前 , 76F
完惹ˉ
02/15 09:46, 76F

02/15 09:47, 8小時前 , 77F
中國買不到牙膏股份的。我也以為是劉德音去接,特
02/15 09:47, 77F

02/15 09:47, 8小時前 , 78F
殊事件排除競業條款
02/15 09:47, 78F

02/15 09:55, 7小時前 , 79F
高招,要GG花錢養英特爾工廠。
02/15 09:55, 79F

02/15 10:37, 7小時前 , 80F
川普跪求台積電合資英特爾
02/15 10:37, 80F

02/15 10:45, 7小時前 , 81F
還有人在說避免關稅,看來是不懂喔ㄏㄏ
02/15 10:45, 81F

02/15 10:45, 7小時前 , 82F
關稅完全可以轉嫁給美企那些龍頭好嗎......
02/15 10:45, 82F

02/15 10:57, 6小時前 , 83F
要救印特爾直接引進輪班星人比較快吧
02/15 10:57, 83F

02/15 10:57, 6小時前 , 84F
有一批好便宜的輪班星人不買嗎
02/15 10:57, 84F

02/15 10:58, 6小時前 , 85F
來工作五年直接給綠卡不就好了
02/15 10:58, 85F

02/15 11:03, 6小時前 , 86F
當然要控股權阿 不然白幹? 生意不是怎樣談的
02/15 11:03, 86F

02/15 11:15, 6小時前 , 87F
印特爾在設計架構真的不輸GG 但量產是需要肝的
02/15 11:15, 87F

02/15 11:32, 6小時前 , 88F
樓上超級外行人就不要瞎講了,台積純代工不設計
02/15 11:32, 88F

02/15 11:39, 6小時前 , 89F
笑死 台積電甚麼時候搞設計了
02/15 11:39, 89F

02/15 11:51, 5小時前 , 90F
把印度人踢出去
02/15 11:51, 90F

02/15 15:42, 2小時前 , 91F
跪下台積電 跪下 毒瘤公司 不把台灣人當人看
02/15 15:42, 91F
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