Re: 實驗室的大學生

看板PhD (博士班)作者lerudit (l'Erudit)時間19年前 (2006/03/06 02:15)推噓2(2推 0噓 0→)

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I think, this is probably 'your' problem. The reason I thought so is, nobody wants to do uninteresting job. A laboratory job can be interesting or uninteresting, depending on whether the researchers understand what they are doing. An interesting job usually has a very clear point, or objective; it can be totally a mechanical or repeating work, however, if you do know what you are doing, what the result can be expected and what you are goint to have ( e.g. payment, a degree, a paper, etc), then you will do it happily. I believe those undergraduates were really beginners on your topic. They got order to do some experimental work, however, not fully understood the objective. Whether they did the work or not, they were going to get their degree. If, now, you give a really boring work to them and you yourself do not even stay with them to explain the knowledge on the going, even me would just reject your order and waste time on what I think is interesting. The normal students will say no in that situation. It is also noted that Taiwanese students usually do not say no, because they were not taught how to do it, particularly to their teachers... However, you are not working in Taiwan, are you? Attending a whatever party is really good reason to leave in a laboratory work, particularly in the evening. No problem at all. It is you who get payment for your work or are going to be conferred a research degree, not them. Do not complain this, just do your work. ※ 引述《SmileFace (@ Ann Arbor)》之銘言： : 相信很多人都有在實驗室帶大學生的經驗 : 我們實驗室有三個under 的學生，沒有實驗室經驗 : 之前他們曾經跟我說 : 「很希望可以多參與一些研究，就算是作最簡單跑腿的事情也好」 : 我老闆也常常強調要盡量找他們幫忙，但又很強調實驗品質一定要好 : 所以我就分出自己project 一個簡單的小部分 : 主要就是要那些學生幫我把sample送去一個地方照X 光 : 然後那裡的人會幫我們把影像分析，他們拿回來之後 : 把每一筆資料keyin 電腦，再用統計軟體去比較各組之間是否有差異 : 這真的非常簡單，而且每次只需要兩個小時就可以結束 : 在我教完之後，他們都會了 : 然後呢？ : 學生A 跟我說 : 我這天不行、那天不行、這天晚上有party要早點離開 : 還有，我學期結束我要回家..... : 我看看他還可以的時間 : 發現這樣排下去，根本在我10個時間點上他只能做1,2 次 : 基本上，那幾乎跟我自己做沒什麼差別 : 學生B 呢？ : 幫我送了一次sample 後，打死也不願意幫我送第二次 : 理由是，外面天氣很冷，說我自己想偷懶所以叫他去 : 但，外面天氣又不是今天才開始冷的 : （而且本小鎮最冷的時候已經過去了，天氣已經漸漸逼近攝氏零度了..） : 而且，我明明就忙著在做其他的實驗 : 學生C ？ : 一開始先是時間難瞧 : 他來了之後，我給了他10個samples要他先拿去樓下實驗室 : 自己繼續在樓上忙，等一個小時後下去 : 發現sample只剩八個！ : 問他另外兩個到哪裡去了？支支吾吾說不出話來..... : 最後反而說我當初只給她八個 : 但其實我每一個sample都有編號，都有紀錄 : 所以我非常確定是有10個..... : .................. : 不知道是我們實驗室的大學生特別天？還是大家都是如此？ -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 82.22.91.213