[文法] 基本文法每日一問..

看板Eng-Class (英文板)作者 (postgraduate)時間9年前 (2016/09/18 15:44), 編輯推噓2(2022)
留言24則, 4人參與, 最新討論串1/1
Even before the negotiations had begun, Chiba Electronics employees expressed their opposition to merger with Tsukino Industries. 這邊難道不能改成Even before the negotiations began... 不知道為何要強調已經開始之前 為何就不能用開始之前.. 拍謝我都中文邏輯在思考.. -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 123.241.33.144 ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/Eng-Class/M.1474184698.A.C08.html

09/18 17:50, , 1F
這句邏輯類似中文的:在oo發生之前,xx就已經發生了。oo用
09/18 17:50, 1F

09/18 17:50, , 2F
過去式,xx就用過去完成式;oo用現在式,xx就用現在完成式
09/18 17:50, 2F

09/18 17:50, , 3F
。有人說這叫什麼時態的退一格之類的,我忘記術語了…
09/18 17:50, 3F

09/18 17:52, , 4F
總覺得例句應該把兩句時態倒過來?
09/18 17:52, 4F

09/18 21:57, , 5F
Swan的"Practical English Usage"有提到這。他說這用法"
09/18 21:57, 5F

09/18 21:58, , 6F
...This is unusual"(一般過去完成式是為了點出動作發生
09/18 21:58, 6F

09/18 21:58, , 7F
比另個動詞(此處是主要子句的動詞expressed)更早。但是此
09/18 21:58, 7F

09/18 21:58, , 8F
處是...「更晚」,所以"unusal")
09/18 21:58, 8F

09/18 21:59, , 9F
此句的"had begun"是為了強調這動作「已經完成」。不想
09/18 21:59, 9F

09/18 21:59, , 10F
刻意強調(只是尋常敘述)就寫 began
09/18 21:59, 10F

09/18 21:59, , 11F
"...都中文邏輯在思考"-> 語感不足之前這沒辦法。現在碰
09/18 21:59, 11F

09/18 21:59, , 12F
到這新的你之前沒碰過的東西就學起來
09/18 21:59, 12F

09/18 22:03, , 13F
09/18 22:03, 13F

09/18 22:03, , 14F
Even before ... began .., .... began to ....
09/18 22:03, 14F

09/18 22:05, , 15F
http://tinyurl.com/h9xgyck 找 Even before the
09/18 22:05, 15F

09/18 22:05, , 16F
negotiations began, ... drew ....
09/18 22:05, 16F

09/18 22:30, , 17F
三樓講的對耶,qoo的原句邏輯怪怪的,有筆誤嗎?
09/18 22:30, 17F

09/25 13:29, , 18F
沒ㄏㄏ
09/25 13:29, 18F

09/25 13:29, , 19F
抱歉二位大大我現在才看
09/25 13:29, 19F

09/25 13:30, , 20F
我吸收一下
09/25 13:30, 20F

09/25 13:30, , 21F
原來是強調喔 其實寫過去式就好了也可以吧
09/25 13:30, 21F

09/25 13:31, , 22F
哈 k大你是愛上我了嗎 每篇都幫我
09/25 13:31, 22F

09/25 13:33, , 23F
不對 我錯了 還是要用過去完成
09/25 13:33, 23F

09/25 13:33, , 24F
我非常懂了 感謝d與k大
09/25 13:33, 24F
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