[問題] 方法請求項中步驟的產物

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從公告案中觀察到方法請求項有些會寫步驟的產物,有些不會寫 對於步驟的產物是否明確的判斷小弟相當疑惑 舉例來說,US8580880的請求項1: A method for stabilizing liquid mercury, comprising the steps of: A) reacting in stoichiometric conditions liquid mercury and a first elemental sulfur through a milling process to obtain a first product; B) adding said first product to aggregates, a second elemental sulfur and a sulfur polymer to obtain a second product, said first and second elemental sulfur is a sulfur powder with a particle size less than 60 μm, and said adding is carried out at a temperature between 130° C. and 165° C. 其中first product與second product未提到各自組成為何?解釋上有點不明確 但如果從其他觀點來看,firsr product與second product是步驟A與B的結果, 好像又可以如此解釋 另舉例來說,US8530715的請求項1 A method of producing a hydrocarbon product, the method comprising: hydrotreating a feedstock comprising at least one of a renewable triacylglyceride (TAG), renewable fatty acid, renewable fatty acid C1-C5 alkyl ester (C1-C5 FAE), and a mixture thereof, in the presence of a nonsulfided hydrotreating catalyst, to produce a first product comprising hydrocarbons and optionally to produce unconverted starting material comprising the at least one of the renewable triacylglyceride (TAG), the renewable fatty acid, the renewable fatty acid C1-C5 alkyl ester (C1-C5 FAE), and the mixture thereof, wherein in the first product, a concentration of at least one of hydrocarbons with an odd-number of carbon atoms, cyclic hydrocarbons, and hydrocarbons with an even-number of carbon atoms, is dependent on a temperature used during the hydrotreating; and controlling the temperature of the hydrotreating to be a first temperature such that a weight ratio of the hydrocarbons having an even-number of carbon atoms to the hydrocarbons having an odd-number of carbon atoms is greater than 1:1, and then further comprising increasing the first temperature by an amount of about 8° C. to about 55° C., such that the weight ratio of the hydrocarbons having an even-number of carbon atoms to the hydrocarbons having an odd-number of carbon atoms decreases to less than 1:1; wherein the renewable TAG, renewable fatty acid, and renewable C1-C5 FAE comprise fatty acid units that have an even number of carbon atoms. 其中first product有提到其組成,解釋上其為何很明確. 想問的是這二件公告案採用不同手法描述步驟的產物 前者很簡潔但有點不明確,後者很冗長但很清楚 想問各位版大的看法與建議 還是有相關資料有探討此部分 感謝! -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 111.254.50.236

12/18 15:59, , 1F
若要分析其claim construction 建議看申請時的板本比較準
12/18 15:59, 1F

12/18 16:01, , 2F
若非得要用公告板本看 那請配合file wrapper之內容觀之
12/18 16:01, 2F

12/18 16:05, , 3F
另外 問題太廣 無法明確回應 建議限縮
12/18 16:05, 3F

12/18 16:29, , 4F
換個方式問好了,如果一步驟為混合A與B得到一混合物
12/18 16:29, 4F

12/18 16:30, , 5F
這步驟為明確嗎?還是我還要定義該混合物包含A與B
12/18 16:30, 5F

12/18 16:32, , 6F
未定義可說是混合的結果,定義很清楚但又很冗長
12/18 16:32, 6F

12/18 16:34, , 7F
因不同公告本讓我不知道到底哪種方式為妥?想問大家意見
12/18 16:34, 7F

12/18 16:59, , 8F
將Sulfur 用某製程製第一物 第一物為product by process
12/18 16:59, 8F

12/18 17:00, , 9F
X不會不明確?
12/18 17:00, 9F

12/18 17:28, , 10F
P大,所以將水電解成一產物和將水電解成氫氣與氧氣
12/18 17:28, 10F

12/18 17:29, , 11F
均為明確,不需要定義產物為何?
12/18 17:29, 11F

12/18 19:33, , 12F
私以為是明確無誤
12/18 19:33, 12F

12/18 19:37, , 13F
呃…水電解還能成為什麼其他的東西嗎?
12/18 19:37, 13F
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