[新聞] Trump may not support foreign firm ope

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原文標題: Trump may not support foreign firm operating Intel's US factories -White House official says 標題翻譯 川普可能不支持外國公司營運英特爾的美國工廠-白宮官員表示 原文連結: https://tinyurl.com/2hf848zj 發布時間: February 15, 20257:19 AM GMT+8 記者署名: Arsheeya Bajwa 原文內容: Feb 14 (Reuters) - President Donald Trump's administration may not support Intel's (INTC.O) , opens new tab U.S. chip factories being operated by a foreign entity, a White House official told Reuters. The comment was in response to a Bloomberg report that Taiwan's TSMC (2330.TW) , opens new tab, the world's biggest chipmaker, was considering taking a controlling stake in Intel's factories at Trump's request. The White House official said the Trump administration supports foreign companies investing and building in the U.S. but is "unlikely" to support a foreign firm operating Intel's factories. Earlier, Bloomberg had reported that Trump's team raised the idea of a deal between the two firms in recent meetings with officials from TSMC, and that they were receptive, citing a person familiar with the matter. The White House official did not immediately comment on whether Trump's team met with the companies and raised the idea of such a deal. The official did not immediately respond to follow-up questions about whether TSMC could be involved with Intel's factories through a joint entity headquartered in the United States. Such a deal, which is still uncertain, could throw a financial lifeline to Intel, which has struggled to restore its lost chipmaking glory as it failed to capitalize on an AI boom and poured billions of dollars into becoming a contract chip manufacturer - a transformation that is yet to materialize. Intel shares closed down 2.2% on Friday, while TSMC's U.S.-listed shares closed up about 1%. It is unclear whether Intel is open to a transaction, according to Bloomberg, and the arrangement may involve having major American chip designers take equity stakes, along with support from the U.S. government. The report added that it meant the venture would not solely be owned by a foreign company. Earlier in the week research firm Baird published a note saying Intel's factories could be spun out into a new entity, jointly owned by Intel and TSMC , with TSMC's engineers helping ensure the factories are viable. "Intel would benefit from significant cash flow relief, and would focus on design and platform solutions going forward, while a viable fab could finally attract key fabless companies to diversify into a geo-dependable manufacturing mode," Baird said in the note. Such a deal would need deep concessions on both sides. Should TSMC accept an arrangement to run Intel's factories, it would have to make significant changes to the U.S. chipmaker's operations because each chip manufacturer has distinct methods and techniques for operating factories. To operate Intel's fabs, TSMC would also likely need to reveal some of its proprietary techniques and processes to Intel employees. On its part, Intel would have to concede the fact that its manufacturing operations would become a totally different entity. As well, TSMC fully operating Intel's factories, known as fabs, also raises questions about Intel's key strategy of manufacturing the chips it has designed. Most chipmakers are "fabless" - outsourcing to the likes of TSMC, which offers considerable cost savings. "If Intel moves down this path, you focus on being a semiconductor design company. So you end up looking more like a Broadcom (AVGO.O) Marvell (MRVL.O) or AMD," Wedbush Securities analyst Matthew Bryson said. TSMC and Intel declined to comment. TARIFF EXEMPTIONS? Intel is among the largest beneficiaries of the United States' push to onshore critical chip manufacturing. Under the previous administration, the U.S. Commerce Department in November said it was finalizing a $7.86 billion government subsidy for Intel. The company is among a few chipmakers that both design and manufacture semiconductors. TSMC is now the world's largest contract chipmaker, which boasts a market valuation about eight times larger than that of Intel. The Taiwanese contract chipmaker's customers include AI chip leader Nvidia ( NVDA.O), AMD (AMD.O) which is Intel's fierce rival in PC and server markets. "Ironically, enough, TSMC might look for some tariff exemptions in order to make this happen and allow for efficient and effective flow of equipment and materials," said Michael Ashley Schulman, chief investment officer at Running Point Capital. Trump tasked his economics team on Thursday to come up with plans for reciprocal tariffs on every country taxing U.S. imports, ramping up prospects for a global trade war. Former Intel CEO Pat Gelsinger, who was ousted last year, set sky-high expectations for Intel's manufacturing and AI capabilities among major clients but fell short, losing or canceling contracts, Reuters had previously reported. Intel's shares lost about 60% of their value last year as the capital- intensive bid to bolster manufacturing - a strategy championed by Gelsinger - strained the company's cash flow and ultimately led to it cutting about 15% of its workforce. The success of Intel's 18A chipmaking technology, slated for this year, is key to the company's manufacturing ambitions. 機翻: 2月14日(路透社) - 一位白宮官員告訴路透社,川普政府可能不支持英特爾(INTC.O) 的美國晶片工廠由外國實體營運。 此評論是針對彭博社的一篇報導,該報導稱全球最大的晶片製造商台積電(2330.TW)正 在考慮應川普的要求收購英特爾工廠的控股權。 白宮官員表示,川普政府支持外國公司在美國投資和建設,但「不太可能」支持外國公司 營運英特爾的工廠。 此前,彭博社報導稱,川普的團隊在最近與台積電官員的會議中提出了兩家公司之間交易 的想法,並且他們對此持開放態度,消息來源是一位知情人士。 白宮官員未立即回應川普團隊是否與公司會面並提出此類交易的想法。該官員也未立即回 應有關台積電是否可能通過總部位於美國的合資企業參與英特爾工廠的後續問題。 此類交易(目前仍不確定)可能會為英特爾提供財務支持,該公司一直難以恢復其失去的 晶片製造榮耀,因為它未能充分利用人工智慧熱潮,並投入數十億美元轉型為合約晶片製 造商——這一轉型尚未實現。 英特爾股價週五收盤下跌2.2%,而台積電在美國上市的股票收盤上漲約1%。 根據彭博社的報導,目前尚不清楚英特爾是否對交易持開放態度,且此安排可能涉及讓美 國主要晶片設計公司持股,並獲得美國政府的支持。報導補充說,這意味著該合資企業不 會完全由外國公司擁有。 本週早些時候,研究公司Baird發布了一份報告,稱英特爾的工廠可能會分拆為一個新實 體,由英特爾和台積電共同擁有,台積電的工程師將幫助確保工廠的可行性。 Baird在報告中表示:「英特爾將受益於顯著的現金流緩解,並將專注於未來的設計和平 台解決方案,而一個可行的晶圓廠最終可能會吸引關鍵的無晶圓廠公司轉向地理依賴的製 造模式。 」 此類交易需要雙方做出重大讓步。 如果台積電接受營運英特爾工廠的安排,它將不得不對這家美國晶片製造商的運營進行重 大調整,因為每家晶片製造商都有獨特的工廠運營方法和技術。 為了營運英特爾的晶圓廠,台積電可能還需要向英特爾員工透露一些其專有技術和流程。 就英特爾而言,它將不得不接受其製造業務將成為一個完全不同的實體的事實。 此外,台積電全面營運英特爾的晶圓廠(稱為fabs)也引發了對英特爾關鍵策略的質疑, 即製造其設計的晶片。大多數晶片製造商都是「無晶圓廠」——將生產外包給台積電等公 司,這可以節省大量成本。 Wedbush Securities分析師Matthew Bryson表示:「如果英特爾走上這條路,你將專注於 成為一家半導體設計公司。因此,你最終會更像博通(AVGO.O)或Marvell(MRVL.O)或 AMD。」 台積電和英特爾均拒絕置評。 關稅豁免? 英特爾是美國推動關鍵晶片製造本土化的最大受益者之一。 在前任政府期間,美國商務部於11月表示,正在為英特爾敲定一項78.6億美元的政府補貼 。 該公司是少數同時設計和製造半導體的晶片製造商之一。台積電目前是全球最大的合約晶 片製造商,其市場估值約為英特爾的八倍。 這家台灣合約晶片製造商的客戶包括人工智慧晶片領導者Nvidia(NVDA.O)和AMD(AMD.O ),後者是英特爾在PC和伺服器市場的激烈競爭對手。 Running Point Capital首席投資官Michael Ashley Schulman表示:「諷刺的是,台積電 可能會尋求一些關稅豁免,以實現這一目標,並允許設備和材料的有效流動。」 川普週四要求其經濟團隊制定計劃,對所有對美國進口商品徵稅的國家實施互惠關稅,這 加劇了全球貿易戰的可能性。 路透社此前報導,去年被解僱的前英特爾CEO Pat Gelsinger在主要客戶中對英特爾的製 造和人工智慧能力設定了極高的期望,但未能實現,導致合同丟失或取消。 英特爾的股價去年下跌了約60%,因為其資本密集型的製造業提振計劃——這一由 Gelsinger倡導的策略——使公司的現金流緊張,最終導致其裁減了約15%的員工。 英特爾的18A晶片製造技術(預計今年推出)的成功對該公司的製造業雄心至關重要。 心得/評論: 路透社的白宮消息來源,回應彭博社的新聞 又指出川普可能不支持台積電運營英特爾的工廠? 猜測川普的態度可能更接近 日本製鐵收購美國鋼鐵的時候 https://tinyurl.com/y6z24dmc 川普三次將日本製鐵誤稱為「日産」後,發表了如下言論: 「與其説是收購(purchase),他們更傾向於投資。」 「他們並不是要擁有(own)美國鋼鐵,而是同意向美國鋼鐵進行大規模投資。」 如果只是單純入股那也是有賺錢的可能, 畢竟英特爾目前股價相當低了。 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 114.32.7.252 (臺灣) ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/Stock/M.1739589730.A.EFB.html ※ 編輯: chordate (114.32.7.252 臺灣), 02/15/2025 11:22:57

02/15 11:22, 11小時前 , 1F
青鳥要飛到美國了
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02/15 11:23, 11小時前 , 2F
看不懂入股可以幹嘛 ceo換台灣人比較快啦
02/15 11:23, 2F

02/15 11:23, 11小時前 , 3F
美鋼不賣日本 英特爾會給台灣收購?
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02/15 11:24, 11小時前 , 4F
川普會幫助英特爾收購台積電美國廠
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02/15 11:24, 11小時前 , 5F
入股認列虧損嗎
02/15 11:24, 5F

02/15 11:24, 11小時前 , 6F
INTC現在就只能要川普爸爸幫他
02/15 11:24, 6F

02/15 11:25, 11小時前 , 7F
就是只想偷技術,又不準台積電管事
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02/15 11:25, 11小時前 , 8F
ceo換台灣人根本沒用 把台灣人移過去比較快
02/15 11:25, 8F

02/15 11:25, 11小時前 , 9F
那就美積電可以嗎
02/15 11:25, 9F

02/15 11:26, 11小時前 , 10F
就指分拆工廠,不是全部啦
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02/15 11:26, 11小時前 , 11F
INTC超爽 只要專心宣傳自己是美國企業 GG是外人就
02/15 11:26, 11F

02/15 11:26, 11小時前 , 12F
一堆保護傘下來了
02/15 11:26, 12F

02/15 11:26, 11小時前 , 13F
看來只有把管理層換成美國人 川普 罷手,最新的技
02/15 11:26, 13F

02/15 11:26, 11小時前 , 14F
術 就是要在美國人手裡。非我族類 其心必異
02/15 11:26, 14F

02/15 11:30, 11小時前 , 15F
派談判專家郭台銘去跟川普談
02/15 11:30, 15F

02/15 11:30, 11小時前 , 16F
賺錢的照顧賠錢貨 誰虧可想而知
02/15 11:30, 16F

02/15 11:30, 11小時前 , 17F
錢跟技術給我美國人,公司不准給黃猴子經營
02/15 11:30, 17F

02/15 11:30, 11小時前 , 18F
翻譯:要錢 要人 要技術
02/15 11:30, 18F

02/15 11:32, 11小時前 , 19F
三普就是要台GG免費出錢 出人 技轉給intel啦
02/15 11:32, 19F

02/15 11:33, 11小時前 , 20F
可憐哪 台GG被歸類在抖音同一級
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02/15 11:33, 11小時前 , 21F
川普跟白宮官員就是玩兩面手法在洗底線
02/15 11:33, 21F

02/15 11:33, 11小時前 , 22F
事實上台灣根本就沒有偷走晶片生意
02/15 11:33, 22F

02/15 11:33, 11小時前 , 23F
華府目標是先進製程在美生產, 結論就是台積獨資加
02/15 11:33, 23F

02/15 11:33, 11小時前 , 24F
大在美投資含補助, 其他就是演戲
02/15 11:33, 24F

02/15 11:35, 11小時前 , 25F
那真是太好了
02/15 11:35, 25F

02/15 11:35, 11小時前 , 26F
到底想怎樣 你搞得我好亂啊!
02/15 11:35, 26F

02/15 11:36, 11小時前 , 27F
沒差,我們政府會幫忙外送
02/15 11:36, 27F

02/15 11:36, 11小時前 , 28F
你有沒有偷重要嗎?他說你有就是有
02/15 11:36, 28F

02/15 11:37, 11小時前 , 29F
你出錢出力出技術就好
02/15 11:37, 29F

02/15 11:37, 11小時前 , 30F
那不就擺明了要搶技術嗎
02/15 11:37, 30F

02/15 11:37, 11小時前 , 31F
印度廠先砍啊!
02/15 11:37, 31F

02/15 11:38, 11小時前 , 32F
就還在談判初期階段 是要做什麼結論?
02/15 11:38, 32F

02/15 11:38, 11小時前 , 33F
給技術沒用,美國人根本管不動,還是要台灣人去幫
02/15 11:38, 33F

02/15 11:38, 11小時前 , 34F
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02/15 11:38, 11小時前 , 35F
有些人是連中文都都看不懂是嗎
02/15 11:38, 35F

02/15 11:41, 11小時前 , 36F
川普就是要intel良率拉起來到可以跟台積電競爭,還
02/15 11:41, 36F

02/15 11:41, 11小時前 , 37F
要台積電去執行這件事,有夠北爛
02/15 11:41, 37F

02/15 11:43, 11小時前 , 38F
GG 短多長空。短期減免關稅獲益,長期技術和經營權
02/15 11:43, 38F

02/15 11:43, 11小時前 , 39F
轉移,可憐
02/15 11:43, 39F
還有 45 則推文
02/15 12:12, 10小時前 , 85F
支持投資但不支持控制 哈哈 就是貪你身子又不想負
02/15 12:12, 85F

02/15 12:12, 10小時前 , 86F
責 早說嘛
02/15 12:12, 86F

02/15 12:12, 10小時前 , 87F
夜盤漲又是誤會了
02/15 12:12, 87F

02/15 12:12, 10小時前 , 88F
川普警察都逮捕小偷了 還敢畏罪潛逃 想當通緝犯嗎
02/15 12:12, 88F

02/15 12:15, 10小時前 , 89F
台積沒破千都是假議題
02/15 12:15, 89F

02/15 12:19, 10小時前 , 90F
只是入股而已 那找蘋果NV來也可以啊 這些乳摸都超瞎
02/15 12:19, 90F

02/15 12:25, 10小時前 , 91F
其實川普才是真正的中共同路人
02/15 12:25, 91F

02/15 12:32, 10小時前 , 92F
這麼明顯了 就是叫你台灣趕快公投入美國聯邦
02/15 12:32, 92F

02/15 12:32, 10小時前 , 93F
這樣就不算foreign entity了
02/15 12:32, 93F

02/15 12:33, 10小時前 , 94F
可能最後方案會是 TSM和拆分後的INTL成立新公司
02/15 12:33, 94F

02/15 12:33, 10小時前 , 95F
新公司有 TSM的AZ廠 和 INTL的代工事業 註冊在美國
02/15 12:33, 95F

02/15 12:34, 10小時前 , 96F
剩餘足夠的流通股份在NYSE或NASDAQ上市
02/15 12:34, 96F

02/15 12:34, 10小時前 , 97F
上面有人疑惑說為啥GG要被這樣予取予求 因為上面叫
02/15 12:34, 97F

02/15 12:34, 10小時前 , 98F
他跪下去阿
02/15 12:34, 98F

02/15 12:34, 10小時前 , 99F
聯邦政府的後續補助是純補助 還是以政府入股的方式
02/15 12:34, 99F

02/15 12:34, 10小時前 , 100F
都有可能
02/15 12:34, 100F

02/15 12:34, 10小時前 , 101F
夜盤被騙了
02/15 12:34, 101F

02/15 12:36, 10小時前 , 102F
原始股東一堆短視近利早早賣掉股份 現在怪誰
02/15 12:36, 102F

02/15 12:37, 10小時前 , 103F
早就外資主導了 台灣人現在才不到10%股份
02/15 12:37, 103F

02/15 12:39, 10小時前 , 104F
Intel可以切掉晶圓代工業務會爽死
02/15 12:39, 104F

02/15 12:43, 10小時前 , 105F
舒服 川普老早就說不會像拜登補助了啦
02/15 12:43, 105F

02/15 12:43, 10小時前 , 106F
外國人私人的股份跟美國政府混為一談,光國籍就可
02/15 12:43, 106F

02/15 12:43, 10小時前 , 107F
能不一樣了,何論官方跟私人,笑了。
02/15 12:43, 107F

02/15 12:44, 10小時前 , 108F
要技術轉移給英 才是他目的
02/15 12:44, 108F

02/15 12:46, 10小時前 , 109F
川寶
02/15 12:46, 109F

02/15 12:48, 10小時前 , 110F
但支持美國管理外國公司?
02/15 12:48, 110F

02/15 13:00, 9小時前 , 111F
亂糟糟
02/15 13:00, 111F

02/15 13:01, 9小時前 , 112F
割地賠款,AI黃金十年
02/15 13:01, 112F

02/15 13:07, 9小時前 , 113F
人家要的是營運管理的know-how/turnkey solution,
02/15 13:07, 113F

02/15 13:07, 9小時前 , 114F
EUV他也有只是還差了個封裝技術
02/15 13:07, 114F

02/15 13:08, 9小時前 , 115F
問題是美利堅肝..
02/15 13:08, 115F

02/15 13:09, 9小時前 , 116F
GG帶技術入股Intel,而且股權不過半,是不是很像外
02/15 13:09, 116F

02/15 13:09, 9小時前 , 117F
國車廠進中國要設合資公司的模式?
02/15 13:09, 117F

02/15 13:10, 9小時前 , 118F
川普真的很棒 每天都在坐大怒神
02/15 13:10, 118F

02/15 13:11, 9小時前 , 119F
美積電也不行 他要intel直接站起來
02/15 13:11, 119F

02/15 13:16, 9小時前 , 120F
豬養肥就是殺
02/15 13:16, 120F

02/15 13:32, 9小時前 , 121F
這哪是偷技術,美國爸爸直接用搶的還比較快
02/15 13:32, 121F

02/15 13:32, 9小時前 , 122F
印度是外國人
02/15 13:32, 122F

02/15 16:15, 6小時前 , 123F
所以投資 技轉 營運權還是它的 不就好了
02/15 16:15, 123F

02/15 17:49, 5小時前 , 124F
不要拉倒別硬推動就好
02/15 17:49, 124F
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