Re: 全國研究生助學金 陳情書 (一封公開信)

看板PhD (博士班)作者 (l'Erudit)時間19年前 (2005/12/30 03:19), 編輯推噓4(405)
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※ 引述《geha (不懂還機車我>"<)》之銘言: : 但是我相信真的有更多的納稅人權益值得per板友關心 : 不用他在這邊一值拿出來講,不然心態就怪了 : 大的權益不去關心,拚命來這邊捍衛小錢(笑) There is no rule saying you cannot concern two things or more in a period. Somebody might argue another topic by posting another post somewhere in next minutes. So what? Are you going to discuss this one? or the other one? Make it clear which one you want, before we waste more time, ok? : OK!回歸討論,妳的論點我有看了,很簡單 : 看事情的角度不同而已 : 妳講的很多事情在你看來理所當然 : 但是你可以想想,什麼叫做想念博士要自己衡量 : 不要唸了才在那邊哭窮... : 那我大可以回妳"那意思是有錢人才可以唸博士囉!!" It is true that you have to think about everything before you make a big investment such as doing a PhD. There are many people thinking of this. (If you go to 'studyabroad' board, you will meet some of them.) You might be surprised that some of them are poor like you and me. Nobody says only rich people can do PhD; however, if you are not much richer than the tuition fee and the living cost, you do have to think about it before you attend one. OK? : 不過這就流於嘴砲了 : 當然是因為有興趣或是有目標才想念博士 : 這是一個理想,相信很多人會努力克服沒錢這個因素 : 所以問題丟出來了 : 系所提供TA機會太少,教授計畫不夠多的時候 : 很多人只好作無關研究的事情賺錢=花在研究上時間就少了 Again, these two statements cannot be put in the both sides of an equal sign, as I explained in another article. The only rule governing the time is everybody has a solid 24 hours per day. Some people set a constant time for studies and for part-time work but sleep less or play less, some do the other way. This is a bloody undergraduate problem! Go to the 'time management' board. Ask your question, they will kindly tell your how. This is not a thing to be argued here. OK? : 想要提升研究素質,在高等教育的補助增加是可行的 : 我也不認為齊頭式平等是對的 : 但是在台大電資學院裡面,獎學金是相對難申請到的 : 優秀如我學長們還是要翻譯原文書或是兼職 : 指為了不跟家拿錢 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Because you want to be responsible, right? But why the other families have to support you by some tax contribution? : 你不覺得同樣是一國的一流大學 ^^^^^^^^ how about the others? : 這樣台灣顯的可悲多了 : 這樣的研究環境要造就比國外學校優秀的人才當然就更難了 : 所以如果站在提升研究素質的觀點上 : 我相信增加補助是有用的 I thought you are talking about all the postgraduate in Taiwan. Should you make it clear? Are you going to ask free money for postgraduates at some specific universities or all of them? -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 82.22.90.37 ※ 編輯: lerudit 來自: 82.22.90.37 (12/30 03:42)

12/30 03:54, , 1F
說真的,你一直反駁別人的話不累嗎?何不提出一個完整論點
12/30 03:54, 1F

12/30 03:54, , 2F
不然其實戰不完的,你只要不認同對方的話都可以PO一篇
12/30 03:54, 2F

12/30 03:56, , 3F
不然真的完全流於嘴砲,這是所以我不對你回文的原因
12/30 03:56, 3F

12/30 04:04, , 4F
還有你真不知人間疾苦阿,很多人是真的家裡沒錢,你懂不懂
12/30 04:04, 4F

12/30 04:05, , 5F
不是你說的為了展現什麼,OK?! 我真的有點受不了你
12/30 04:05, 5F

12/30 10:09, , 6F
g兄 並不是用非理性字眼就可以表示自己站得住腳的
12/30 10:09, 6F

12/30 10:59, , 7F
沒論點只反駁簡單阿:3 樓上你說哪裡不理性論證一下唄:3
12/30 10:59, 7F

12/31 00:55, , 8F
I stop to criticise when I find a weak statement.
12/31 00:55, 8F

12/31 01:03, , 9F
When there are too many weak points, then~~. My fault?
12/31 01:03, 9F
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