Re: [閒聊] 好像大部分都在恭喜開版...

看板Latina (拉丁文)作者 (噬小月)時間15年前 (2009/05/12 18:41), 編輯推噓1(101)
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※ 引述《DJYeh (Yel D'ohan)》之銘言: : ※ 引述《phoebe1989 (噬小月)》之銘言: : : 先分享一下昨天上的一句話, : : Argumentum ad baculum. Arqument with a cane; the appeal to force in a debate. : : Agree with me or I will beat you up. : : argumentum有沒有很像英文的一個字勒... : : 動動腦吧~~ : : 猜對了!!就是argument : : ad 是to的意思 : : baculum則是stick棍子的意思 : : (老師在講這個字的時候還揶揄說是用來打我這個發音不標準的學生>///<) : : 以上就是我淺薄的分喜囉!! : : 還希望有高人補充說明喔!!^^y 對版友的補充我有些疑問, 因此我去問了我們老師, 從他那裏找了一些資料, 應該比較正確... : 另外還有很多論證上的謬誤有用拉丁文稱呼的: : Argumentum ad hominem : 針對人,人身攻擊。 An argument that derives its force from its special application to the interests of the individual to whom it is derected. Such an argument may appeal to the prejudices or the private gain of an opponent, to his passion rather than his reason. The same name is given to an argument in which one employs an opponent's words or actions to refute him. It has been said that a popular illustration of the "agrumentum ad hominem" is found in the technique of the defense lawyer who, when he is at a loss for arguments, attracks the attorney for the plaintiff, though this is not the current usage of this phrase in the United States. : Argumentum ad verecundiam : Verecundia 是來自動詞vereor,(vereor,vereri,veritus sum),意思是respect「尊敬」 : 用權威當證據,專家說的算。 appeal to an opponent's sense of decency. : Post hoc ergo propter hoc : "after this therefore because of this", : 只因為A發生之後B也發生,就認為是A造成B,correlation>causation : Cum hoc ergo propter hoc : Cum就是with : 例如從古代到現代海盜數量變少了,溫室效應則變嚴重,所以是海盜減少造成溫室效應。 : Argumentum ad populum : Populus這個字看得出來吧?跟popular很像。 : 就是大家說了算。大家都說演化論有問題,所以演化論有問題。 : Argumentum ad misericordiam : 看得出來misery「可憐」吧? : 就是如果對方的論點正確、自己的論點錯誤,就會很可憐,所以自己的才是對的。 這個不知道我解讀的意思對不對, 好像跟原來解是有點出入 appeal to pity : Argumentum ad ignorantiam : 英文ignorance「無知」。 : 某人無法證明是錯的,所以是對的;某人無法證明是對的,所以是錯的…… : 其實問題事出在某人自己無知。 An argument based on an adversary's ignorance of facts in controversy. : 有興趣瞭解細節或是想知道其他我沒有列出來的可以看看這邊: : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logical_fallacy 此外再補充三個~ Argumentum ad invidiam An appeal to envy, jealousy, or ill will. Argumentum ad crumenam An appeal to one's purse; an argument which stresses the profit possible for one's opponent. Argumentum ad judicium An argument appealing to judgement. -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 61.64.172.215

05/13 14:09, , 1F
推 然後倒數第三個是 ``ad invidiam''?
05/13 14:09, 1F

05/13 20:05, , 2F
沒錯!!是我打錯了!!倒數第三個是invidiam^^謝謝指正
05/13 20:05, 2F
※ 編輯: phoebe1989 來自: 61.62.148.146 (05/13 20:06)
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