Re: [心得] 博班學長與碩班學弟之間

看板PhD (博士班)作者lerudit.時間19年前 (2005/09/24 05:52)推噓2(2推 0噓 0→)

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※ 引述《prior.bbs@ptt.cc (Love Actually)》之銘言： : 我在老師門下的綽號是魔鬼軍曹，去年的我的確也是如此。 : 老師對於碩班有進度的規劃，但是又希望他們能夠「快樂地 : 」寫論文。可惜我還是堅持做魔鬼，所以我去年不斷地盯進 : 度，但是我也同時不斷地給他們必要的支援，paper、格式 : 、軟體操作、甚至幫忙處理一些碩士班做不太出來的分析方 : 法。可惜的是去年的碩士班讓我寒心。某個碩士生在我熬夜 : 兩天幫他處理一大塊資料的分析方式，最後拿到他要的數據 : 的隔天，打了通電話給我，說了大意是「你不要以為你會做 : 就了不起！我就是看不起你這種高高在上，只會要求的人」 : 後來回宿舍的路上我就一路掉眼淚，一個28歲的男生在路上 : 哭是很難看的，但是我實在忍不住，覺得自己之前給他們那 : 麼多資料，花時間跟他們討論，又教軟體，幫忙跑程式，最 : 後換來的是這樣。後來我也才知道我之所以有一段時間很被 : 老師討厭，是因為那個碩士班去老師那邊不斷地說我壓榨他 : ，對他們極盡苛刻之能事，卻完全不提我給他哪些幫助.... : 今年我決定改變風格，碩士班不來找我我也不去找他。反正 : 老師會當最後的仲裁者，雖然鐵鎚還是會釘釘子，但是我這 : 個釘子今年不想管木板。如果他們不能畢業，那也是他們的 : 造化使然。對於積極的學弟妹要抱持積極的態度，盡量給他 : 們協助。對於擺爛的，那就請自便吧。老子也是很忙的。 To be honest, I don't know why you haven't done this in the very beginning. In fact, this is not a job of PhD student, but rather of a supervisor or a fellow. Moreover, postgraduates in Taiwan are usually quite confused about the relationship between PhD students and master students, or same degree but at different levels. Really, in a group, they should be at a fair level; no student should be supervised by the other one. When a student seeks help from the other one, she or he should say 'please..'. Even all the members should work in a team; however, one only does one's work essentially. Co-work is possible, but only both benefit from each other's work. In your case, you, a student, actually supervise another student. However, you may also make some mistakes in this; e.g. estimate too many for a master student. If this was the real situation, you could get that feedback, which is not surprising. A master student's work is to do a master degree --- there is no point to do too much over the criteria of the degree but still get a master degree only. Similarly, you don't really like your supervisor asking you to do too much over the criteria of a PhD degree (and takes you more time), do you? I would suggest, from now on, treat your master degree co-workers as colleagues, instead of whatever in a lower rank than you. Leave your boss's job to himself. You are not paid to do this. Really, you should bear in mind, those people might, some day, decide to take a PhD course and finally become a PhD, and might will be even stronger than you.... Think about this... Hopefully helps. -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢參(ptt3.cc) ◆ From: 82.22.90.37