Re: 全國研究生助學金 陳情書 (一封公開信)

看板PhD (博士班)作者 (l'Erudit)時間19年前 (2005/12/30 01:38), 編輯推噓1(100)
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※ 引述《kwc1 (Never Give Up)》之銘言: : 有人會問說,為什麼不找有威望有錢的教授 : 其實我有想過這個問題 : 可是,當我們現在老闆會坐在同學身邊 : 一起討論問題、一起寫paper : 他百分之百的投入,而不是那種很忙行政的教授 : 我們每天至少看到他一次 : 他的熱誠跟嚴謹是當初讓我想要跟著他學習的原因 Wise choice! : 然後我做的東西沒有生產的價值(我想一些NPC証明沒有生產價值吧) This doesn't matter. If you go to find out the current PhDs, you might be surprised that many PhDs doing real jobs which are not very relevant to their theses. The most important is the quality of your training. : 東西交不出來,老闆當然唸,我們老師很熱心也很積極 : 所以我也不好意思拖稿 : 那自己領錢打工的東西又不能裝死(如果我裝死領錢,我自己會受不了的) : 所以結果就是忙忙忙,茫茫茫 : 所以也不敢離開學校 : 我想回家看看了T_T : 至於我自己對於經濟當然是能省則省啦:P : 省錢的方式就是自己做早餐或者是晚餐啦 : 切萵苣做三明治啦,烤地瓜啦,起司焗馬鈴薯啦 : -.-a為了省錢所以學會了一些烤箱菜單,避免月底餓死 I am not surprised. This is quite usual to be honest. I do my cooking every day and even shop my food from traditional markets. I am quite happy for this. : 買東西盡量趁大特價的時候買啦(所以PTT cookclub跟大賣場版我都有潛水) : 像是衛生紙130抽不超過9塊錢啦這種小事情 : 大概只有我記得吧 : -.-b有學弟說過我是實驗室的阿婆 : 不過我還吃得起一餐80塊錢的雞腿便當(不要每餐的話還好啦) : 如果能夠讓我有6000塊錢的補助金 : 我想我可以真正的做更多有關研究的東西 : 至少我可以只要兼實驗室助理就好 : 不過我也不贊成齊頭式的平等補助,但是有個基本額真的是很需要啊 : 我認為補助是有個基本,然有有做事有多錢,有成果有多錢 : 譬如說基本6000 How about double it? I know many people are going to answer 'yes'. However, in the real world, nothing is free. Your payment must come from somebody. You get your payment because of your contribution benefits somebody; and this is why they pay you. Conversely, those who are not interested in your work will not give you any money. Therefore, it is your PhD, it benefits you most; so, don't you think you should be responsible for all the cost? (don't be hassle, we know you do this quite well). Of course, your research will benefit the project sponsor, so you stand on a good position to ask payment from them. If, unfortunately, you cannot get any money from anyone, except from yourself, you still can borrow student loan from the bank. Of course you have to pay your loan back when you finish your PhD. This is still not too bad, as actually, some of the interests are paid by the government, or the taxpayers, but not by you. We, or the taxpayers, do support you by this fair way, just like we have supported many small industries and companies to invest in their own future. Some of them used the money to make their own businesses, and finally they become big men/women and can easily pay the loan back. They, or their union, don't ask equal amount of free money from the government, do they? Similarly, your PhD is just your own business; not of your father, not of the government nor of anyone of any whoever. Some day, you might become a big man because of this, your government or the taxpayers will not ask you to pay some free money or free work. Isn't it very fair? Gentlemen, please forgive me for having to mention this here. There are many beggars who will ask something by showing they are poor. (Ironically, some beggars are really very rich... anyway.) I wish none of us are doing this. : 上IEEE Transactions On Computer就每個月加多少加幾個月這樣 : 或者是訂定一些增值補助的標準..... : 讓優秀的學生有更優渥的環境 This might be a good start, anyway. There are always some people can really think, ain't there. : 我認為,現在的研究生補助真的是很有限啊 : 一個月如果只靠學校補助大約是1500 : 難道現在研究生都是靠父母親資助全額? : 我爸已經55了,家裡只有爸爸的收入,妹妹也還在念書 : ......跟家裡拿錢真是萬不得已 : 我也希望老爸的老本不要被我這個因為自己想唸書就唸的不肖子花光 : 還好一路上都是唸公立學校,不然現在大概在當黑手吧:) : 而且我也沒有優秀到可以拿獎學金 : 但是....難道我的努力不值得讓我繼續唸下去.... : anyway : 我覺得,就算實施了也不是在我們這一屆身上 : 我只希望以後,如果我的小孩,也像我唸書可能要唸到30歲 : 我希望政府給他一個基本的補助,些微的減輕生活的負擔 : 我也希望他的努力受到機關學校大眾的肯定,有一些實質的獎勵 : 不要像我這樣辛苦 : 人家行政立法機關週休二日 : 這樣好像念博士班該死.......唸不會賺錢的部份更該死...... : 啊不可以說喪氣話,向前看向前看:) I will not criticise anyone's family issue anywhere. So, just remind of the options I mentioned above might help you. Good luck. Again, we keep saying that your study/degree is your own business and of your own cost. Wish this is the latest time... PhD is a very good investment for some people. (At least Einstein will agree this.) Comparing with your case, I personally even have invested much more (tuition fee) than yours on my own. Like you, I am not a rich person, but I never thought things so negatively. If you go back to read my old articles, I mentioned, a PhD is just like an engineering work to build a very high building. Things are usually very difficult in the very beginning; half of the time might be spent on doing the foundation. This hardship, of course, includes your money, living style, time, love, etc. PhD is not a highstreet career, although quite similar, anyway. : 大家都加油喔 : 如果現在跟我一樣過的比較辛苦的同學 : 希望以後你們也能支持研究生的稍微加薪 : 可以讓後來研究一些沒有商業化價值的東西的人不要過得很苦 : 至於覺得不辛苦覺得研究生過得太閒不該領這麼多錢的各位 : 就叫你們家小孩子不要唸電機資工,因為操起來有可能很痛苦又貧窮 : 不過賭到還沒長大的台積電聯電有可能會賺大錢啦:P : 謝謝各位耐心的把文章看完 : 有點累了可能沒有什麼邏輯可言啦^^a : 我只是希望反對的人也稍微想想 : 是不是有必要反對的這麼用力:P : 不要鞭我@@ We do or do not support an action is not by chance; we do know why, and we will tell you the reasons, again and again, no matter if you have listened. I personally cannot understand why there are always some people still recognise 'free money', such unfair option, is the only solution. In fact, I personally did suggest many alternatives again and again in my posts. There are also many people provide similar view. It is quite interesting that nobody questioning or discussing the possibilities of these options, but just sticking on asking 'free money'. No matter you believe or not, you will not get more 'free money' from the government by the protest. Moreover, the 'free money' can only decrease and evantually disappear in the near future, although the school part-time jobs will still exist then. Am I right? we will see. -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 82.22.90.37 ※ 編輯: lerudit 來自: 82.22.90.37 (12/30 04:14)

12/30 14:57, , 1F
我覺得最大的問題是你用英文寫,想看的人太少了
12/30 14:57, 1F
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