Re: [感想] 書上寫的和大老說的不一樣

看板medstudent (醫學生)作者 (<(  ̄^ ̄)凸︽θ)時間9年前 (2017/04/11 20:49), 編輯推噓8(8015)
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Tintinalli's Emergency Medicine A Comprehensive Study Guide 8th Ed(2015) Section 9: Gastrointestinal Disorders Chapter 71: Acute Abdominal Pain p.483 SYMPTOM TREATMENT AND FURTHER CLINICAL DIAGNOSIS At this point, provide symptomatic relief. Opioid analgesia relieves pain and will not obscure abdominal findings, delay diagnosis, or lead to increased morbidity/mortality. Do not withhold analgesia from patients with acute undifferentiated abdominal pain. The information on the safety of opioids cannot be extrapolated to nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs such as parenteral ketorolac because nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs are not pure analgesics and can mask early peritoneal inflammation. 急診人的聖經,再怎樣不想念也要翻翻它... 腹痛可以放心的止痛,然後要大膽的開 Opioid 去止痛 別開 Ketorolac 這類 NSAID,因為會掩蓋早期腹膜炎的症狀,且很傷胃... 如果有急診前輩還有著「急診腹痛不能止痛」的概念,可以拿著 Tintinalli's 去「請教」 對了...順帶一提~ 只要你是 PGY,那代表你有醫師證書,法院傳票還是有你一張喔 XD 我只是路過的...廢廢 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 111.83.204.232 ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/medstudent/M.1491914972.A.E9B.html

04/11 21:04, , 1F
急診教科書不一定正確吧?
04/11 21:04, 1F

04/11 21:55, , 2F
醫療又不是數學 當然沒有唯一解 不過那本書寫的內容應
04/11 21:55, 2F

04/11 21:55, , 3F
該是多數美國急診醫師都會同意的吧
04/11 21:55, 3F

04/11 22:01, , 4F
我的意思是急診教科書對某些疾病描述不太精準 好歹也翻
04/11 22:01, 4F

04/11 22:15, , 5F
個GS教科書
04/11 22:15, 5F

04/11 22:29, , 6F
???
04/11 22:29, 6F

04/11 23:12, , 7F
外科:急診教科書不準啦
04/11 23:12, 7F

04/11 23:12, , 8F
大老:
04/11 23:12, 8F

04/12 01:12, , 9F
法院只看你有無符合醫療常規 教科書都這麼寫了急診給還好吧
04/12 01:12, 9F

04/12 10:39, , 10F
麻醉科離開一線臨床太久了,當年真的被教說不可以隨便
04/12 10:39, 10F

04/12 10:39, , 11F
止痛
04/12 10:39, 11F

04/12 10:40, , 12F
但是以麻醉科的角度來看,opioid不會影響診斷症狀嗎?
04/12 10:40, 12F

04/12 10:42, , 13F
要看病人對劑量的反應吧,有的人給一般劑量就會嗜睡及
04/12 10:42, 13F

04/12 10:42, , 14F
強度止痛了
04/12 10:42, 14F

04/12 10:43, , 15F
不過真的在這裡學到了新觀念,真的以前學的不一定是對
04/12 10:43, 15F

04/12 10:43, , 16F
04/12 10:43, 16F

04/12 11:58, , 17F
我個人看GS急診照會的經驗 acu. abd的病人在我下去看時
04/12 11:58, 17F

04/12 12:00, , 18F
都已經有止痛了(敝院急診愛用的tramal),沒有遇過因此
04/12 12:00, 18F

04/12 12:00, , 19F
影響診斷的
04/12 12:00, 19F

04/12 12:03, , 20F
尤其現在CT發達的年代,Hx/PE/lab是初步screening建立D
04/12 12:03, 20F

04/12 12:05, , 21F
Dx,真正診斷要不要開進去 通常還是要CT或至少US
04/12 12:05, 21F

04/12 12:06, , 22F
賢謝們強調Hx/PE 也只是叫我們不要亂槍打鳥每個肚子痛
04/12 12:06, 22F

04/12 12:08, , 23F
都無腦掃CT,不至於靠PE就診斷開進去
04/12 12:08, 23F
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