Re: [新聞] 溫泉魚咬腳 恐散播愛滋

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※ 引述《howsptt (浩爾)》之銘言: : ※ [本文轉錄自 Gossiping 看板 #1Edk9qrJ ] : 作者: howsptt (浩爾) 看板: Gossiping : 標題: Re: [新聞] 溫泉魚咬腳 恐散播愛滋 : 時間: Wed Oct 19 22:45:03 2011 : 英國健康保護局原文 : http://0rz.tw/8CHjs : 原文要強調的明顯是感染機會相當低 : 怎麼施潘兩位記者的報導轉而強調「可能」 : 造成民眾緊張? 1.中文看不出「強調」「可能」的語氣,原文也沒「強調」感染率相當低 2.原文提到,感染機率不無可能,對於抵抗力低或是糖尿病者, 感染機率可能會比一般人高。 摘錄自原文:(原文提到「可能感染」的段落) Fish tank water has been shown to contain a number of microorganisms. Therefore, in a fish spa setting there is the potential for transmission of a range of infections, either from fish to person (during the nibbling process), water to person (from the bacteria that can multiply in water), or person to person (via water, surrounding surfaces and fish). However, the overall risk of infection is likely to be very low, if appropriate standards of hygiene are adhered to. The fish spa working group concluded that those with weakened immune systems or underlying medical conditions, including diabetes and psoriasis, are likely to be at increased risk of infection and so fish pedicures are not recommended for such individuals. The working group advised that operators of fish spas should not promote treatment to these groups. Dr Hilary Kirkbride, consultant epidemiologist at the HPA, said: “Provided that good standards of hygiene are followed by salons, members of the public are unlikely to get an infection from a fish spa pedicure, however the risk will be higher for certain people. “This is why we feel it’s important for salons to ensure the client has no underlying health conditions that could put them at risk, and that a thorough foot examination is performed, to make sure there are no cuts, grazes or existing skin conditions that could spread infection. “Anyone considering a fish pedicure can help reduce the risk of infection – both to themselves and others – by taking simple precautions. Allowing any cuts or infections you may have on your feet or legs to heal before having the treatment, and waiting at least 24 hours after having a leg wax or shaving, will minimise your chances of catching anything. If you do experience any ill effects after the treatment, you should visit your GP.” 3.全文重點在於此項spa活動的清潔衛生維護,以避免感染 4.這篇文章提醒民眾注意spa的清潔,並注意自身健康和安全,何來引起民眾緊張? 不知道就不會緊張嗎?(原文內文提到有感染案例,雖無法確定感染來源..) To date, the HPA has been made aware of a handful of cases of infection in people who had recently had a fish pedicure. However, foot infections can spread in a variety of environments, and we are unable to say categorically where individual cases of infection were picked up. : 而且原文隻字未提亞洲 : 試問第二段的英國對亞洲提出警告何來有自? 1.英國官方提警告始於亞洲的「小魚咬腳」: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^指這篇文章或報告 這一段話並沒有提到英國對亞洲「提出警告」 ^^^^^^^^^^^向亞洲國家呼籲或警告? 2.http://www.hpa.org.uk/webw/HPAweb&Page&HPAwebAutoListName/Page/1317130999316 上面是您所提供英國官方網址中,文章的參考資料, 網頁中的圖片說明:A fish spa pedicure is a beauty treatment that involves immersing the feet in a tank of water containing Garra rufu fish, which nibble off dead and thickened skin. While this is a long-established practice in Turkey, India and the Far East, it has only recently gained popularity in ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ the UK. 其中所提到的國家都是在亞洲,所以根據官方說法,「小魚咬腳」的確始於亞洲沒錯啊。 : 如果所有編譯的新聞都要閱聽人自行查證 : 我們為什麼需要編譯? (原敘述刪除2011,10,20) : 請新聞工作者尊重新聞專業 報導事實! : ※ 引述《tera (おわた\(^o^)/)》之銘言: : : 1.新聞連結: : : http://app.nexttv.com.tw/applenews/article/art_id/33749644/IssueID/20111019 : : 2.新聞內文: : : 【施翩、潘岳╱綜合報導】 : : 號稱能讓腳ㄚ子光滑溜溜的療法「小魚咬腳」,受到國內外愛 : : 美人士風行。但英國健康保護局(HPA)昨警告,包括愛滋 : : 病毒(HIV)及C肝都可能在魚池中散播。 : : 英國官方提警告始於亞洲的「小魚咬腳」,是讓淡紅墨頭魚吃 : : 掉腳上的廢皮,因新奇及搔癢感,近年在歐美流行。 : : 英國健康保護局指出,魚池中微生物可能攜帶細菌並透過泡腳 : : 傳染。若使用者帶有血液傳染疾病的病毒,如愛滋病毒、C型 : : 肝炎病毒等,後繼使用者可能感染。 : : 英國健康保護局顧問柯布萊德(Hilary Kirkbride)說,血液 : : 傳染疾病透過魚池散播機率雖不高,但糖尿病、牛皮癬患者或 : : 免疫力較低的民眾感染機率較大,應盡量避免。 : : 宜蘭縣礁溪許多溫泉飯店都設有溫泉魚SPA池,吸引遊客泡腳。 : : 礁溪山泉大飯店副總余曼玲說,三年前就有外國媒體報導溫泉 : : 魚會傳染疾病,當時生意未受影響,這幾年客源也相當穩定; : : 至於這次是否影響生意,尚待觀察。 : : 業者:定期換魚 : : 業者說,溫泉魚SPA使用的水屬流動活水,會帶走細菌,且定期 : : 更換健康魚種,不用擔心傳染疾病,業者也禁止腳部有傷口或 : : 香港腳等民眾入池,迄未接獲民眾反映染病。 : : 溫泉魚小檔案 : : 學名:淡紅墨頭魚(Garra rufa) : : 俗稱:醫生魚、土耳其青苔鼠 : : 體型:2至4公分 : : 產地:土耳其、約旦、伊拉克等中東國家淡水水域 : : 特性:適合生活在碳酸氫鈉泉、水溫最高可達43℃,嘴部吸吮力強 : : 資料來源:宜蘭縣府農業處 : : 3.備註: -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 114.41.24.199 ※ 編輯: chingfen 來自: 114.41.24.199 (10/19 23:54)

10/19 23:55, , 1F
限於本版討論,請勿轉載。
10/19 23:55, 1F

10/19 23:56, , 2F
至於新聞標題「聳動」,恕不在討論範圍內。
10/19 23:56, 2F

10/19 23:58, , 3F
原文標題 Fish pedicures unlikely to cause infection
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10/19 23:58, , 4F
相信您知道科學相關文章使用unlikely的意思
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10/19 23:59, , 5F
你噓我幹嘛...內文不會自己看喔...
10/19 23:59, 5F

10/20 00:00, , 6F
只看標題,還說別人專業失準...= =
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10/20 00:02, , 7F
還有,要戰請去八卦版去戰...= =
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10/20 00:02, , 8F
請針對回應謝謝
10/20 00:02, 8F

10/20 00:02, , 9F
如果純討論翻譯內容,當然歡迎...
10/20 00:02, 9F

10/20 00:03, , 10F
但如果要「吵架」或爭個「輸贏」,恕不奉陪...= =
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10/20 00:10, , 11F
請問愛滋和C肝來自原文何處?
10/20 00:10, 11F
http://www.hpa.org.uk/webw/HPAweb&Page&HPAwebAutoListName/Page/1317130999316 網頁下方附的指引 Members of the public can look here for advice on how to minimise the potential risk of infection when having a fish spa pedicure. http://www.hpa.org.uk/webc/HPAwebFile/HPAweb_C/1317131045549 官方附的指引,請自行蒐尋HIV,如無傳染疑慮,就沒必要提出建議了...

10/20 00:25, , 12F
我覺得新聞內文沒提到"一般人只要注意衛生清潔,感染率很
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10/20 00:25, , 13F
低" 是比較可惜的地方
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10/20 00:26, , 14F
如果真的不會感染,為何不用impossible,這比unlikely
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10/20 00:27, , 15F
更有說服力吧。統計上沒有意義,不代表實際就無意義
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10/20 00:27, , 16F
醫學上很少用impossible 因為只要一億人裡有一個就算有
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10/20 00:28, , 17F
所以原文才會用"very low"
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10/20 02:26, , 18F
這篇新聞報導,怎麼看都沒有「編譯」二字...
10/20 02:26, 18F

10/20 02:40, , 19F
新聞編譯的工作內容究竟有哪些啊?包括第一時間查證資料
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10/20 02:41, , 20F
來源與否嗎?新聞的時效性能每次都有充分時間查證嗎?
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10/20 02:42, , 21F
外國報導內容要如何查證?(官方資料之外...)
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10/20 02:55, , 22F
外國報導有誤...國內新聞編譯跟著錯?
10/20 02:55, 22F

10/20 02:56, , 23F
這篇新聞的爭議點應該是B肝病毒、C肝病毒和HIV傳染與否
10/20 02:56, 23F

10/20 03:08, , 24F
這篇報導如果是編譯...新聞稿來源會是哪裡呢?
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10/20 03:10, , 25F
(不想了...新聞專業不是我的領域...= =)
10/20 03:10, 25F
※ 編輯: chingfen 來自: 114.41.32.176 (10/20 13:35)

10/21 00:12, , 26F
原PO拍拍 遇到數字板來亂的 ~"~
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